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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
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从技术层面保持怀疑，但从哲学角度，今天的我已经不是昨天的我，明天的我也不是今天的我，那么复制一个完全一样的我，到底是不是我已经没有答案。我觉得这并不是憧憬科技，而是回归人类本身，探讨爱与死亡。影片的落点很温情，译名很贴切，高概念的主题依然饱含人文情愫，这很苹果。另外以后的 Apple Car 会不会就是他们坐的车！
演技一流，没有什么抓马的剧情，最后带来的妻子的告白也太感人了。
可能人类本身就是一种人工智能机器，肉体是硬件，基因是芯片，意识和记忆是储存卡。如果复制硬件，重新插入芯片和储存卡，那到底算是重生还是克隆？？
最近很不喜欢讲大道理的电影，宁可把 天鹅挽歌 当一个科幻片看，也不愿去想电影里为爱的人牺牲或者人面对自己的时候有多痛苦。故事是在不远的未来，一个有apple自动驾驶和apple眼镜已经做成隐形眼镜的未来，快病死的男主角在一个apple审美的地方克隆了一个自己，并把记忆移植给了克隆体，让克隆体去替代自己生活。不要问为什么这么多apple，因为播出平台就是apple+。想简单一点，这电影就好看了，阿里一脸便秘式的分饰两个自己也的确该拿金球奖影帝提名。
看哭了😭用对自己的残忍去置换对家人的幸福，得绝症本就很凄惨！还要孤独的死去！
所以自己一个人孤独的死去 就不用去做这些思想斗争了 虽然很温暖的科幻主题 但是在该哭的地方总觉得差临门一脚 我都没哭出来 just感动 也许是因为演员的过儿吧...法海的moon river好好听 其他bgm也好棒 7.5
对死亡的恐惧时常让人错失了好好告别的机会。科技 伦理的课题还要讨论太久，也许永远没有答案。
“不需要看剧情，看画面，看风景，看室内装饰，装修了。” 这是什么评论？看电影不需要看剧情？
随风升华
分别的痛苦仅留于己，但求家人余生皆幸福。这，大抵就是爱吧。
抱歉，不是我的菜。生命的延续还是靠生育吧，和你相同的基因，却有着完全不同的人生，不是挺好吗？非要有共同的过往记忆，然后走向不同的未来，没有太大的意义，终究那个自己不是自己了
每个人人生都独一无二，但请带着我的记忆和思念，继续活下去。
Apple在这部电影里要兜售的内容太多了：生活方式、生命观念、对待记忆的态度…一切与科技息息相关，也早已超过了之前出品内容里的Apple产品覆盖。无论做产品，还是做内容，Apple最终还是在做上层建筑。
只要是和克隆人技术有关，伦理是一个绕不开去的话题。影片的观点或许就是：替代者本身就完全是自己的DNA复制的，当本体即将死去，那么用克隆体继续生存下去是除了对自己本体不公以外，其余各方面来说都是最完美的解决方案。
传说天鹅在临死前的叫声特别动人，特别美 - 《天鹅挽歌》.以爱之名，让爱延续
我，潜意识的我，克隆人，克隆人-我同步，克隆人的道德焦虑，克隆人忘却克隆身份，克隆人变成我，我（肉身）消亡，我的情感以克隆的肉身为载体存在，克隆人开始崭新的我。这样的伦理放在十年前或者二十年前几乎是不可能成立的。然而此时此刻，却像是对无常世界最后的缴械，便是放下伦理道德，因为除了眼前的温情，我们已无更好选择。
作为软科幻，它甚至没有走到探讨记忆与人格的关系那一步，而是停在了与亲人告别这一层，总之有点可惜
一个我将永远离你而去 另一个我则一直陪在你身边
把自己拥有的一切拱手让人，哪怕那个人是另一个自己，也很难过吧。
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