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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
一连串的辩论看的太过瘾了 言论 结社 游行是国家赋予人民的权利 正义终会胜利
片子拍得很好。但有个角度更好：原来美国人如此反感越战，仅仅是因为死了太多美军士兵。难怪现在不上街反战了呢，感谢无人机和导弹，让美国人民对被侵略国家的成千上万死难者眼不见心不烦。越战时越南平民死了多少人呢，哦，统计不出来。
只想用丝滑形容索金的剧作和台词。一如既往的嵌套与张力将美国司法与权力系统嘲讽的体无完肤。《死亡诗社》式的结局是被统治阶级仅剩的反抗。成片其实略有一丝套路，但五星在豆瓣表示“力荐”，希望所有人都能看看，因为“全世界都在看”！
相比之下，这一部反而不太能共情，没有有力地回应政治正确的疑问，而是不假思索地用过去来为现在鼓与呼，真是这么线性的历史过程？年轻人的激情求变，被结构化之后，恐怕远比这个曲折缠绕，结尾字幕说明了这一点。
在今天这个日子刷这部，还有比我更（）的人吗？「Give me a moment, would you, friend? I have never been on trial for my thoughts before.」by Abbie Hoffman
太牛逼了，爆笑爽片，索金终于会导电影了，剪辑带劲，配乐炸裂！
【7.5分】索金毫不掩饰的一篇政治檄文写得潇洒又漂亮，接近饱和甚至是扫射级别的对白，庭审现场、运动实录与历史影像的蒙太奇，在凌厉的剪辑节奏中无一丝喘息的机会，直达最后情绪饱满的结局。开场高效叙事完成了学院精英、嬉皮士、非暴力抗议者、黑豹党的多势力的介绍，以政府主导的思想罪庭审为推动力，阐明体制服从者如何一步步崩溃，温和反抗派如何逐步失控，导向最后的觉醒。以嬉皮行事乖张却无私，学院精英看似大义的倒转却有私来完成“和解”真是神来之笔，更不要说片中处处存在的并置。索金用了曾饰演尼克松的弗兰克兰格拉来饰演法官，简直把国家机器刻在他脸上。“如果注定要流血，就让血流遍整个城市”，这是索金的战号
建制左和激进左的相爱相杀，是不破不立，有破有立的互补共存，即使在右的冷漠视角看来一概都是破坏社会稳定的危险分子。The left因为多元开放允许争论才被称为the left，但即使被分级，被离间，他们依然站在一起。
索金大师不愧是大师，在两个小时的时长内讲述了美国六十年代民运错综复杂的权利与社会关系，通俗易懂丝毫不显臃肿，人物也富有个性，法庭戏也不枯燥，如果要挑缺点那就是这片太匠气了，太靠剧本了，少了些灵气。演员都是拿奖的种子选手，最后对暴乱的直面展现也是颇有趣味。这个片子很适合和今年维吉尼亚金拍的迈亚密一夜一起看，各个民运派系观点的冲撞以及民运所附带的责任，这两部片讲的都很有意思。
朋友，给我一点时间吧，这是我的思想，第一次接受审判。
他们的平民团结可以带来正义或者改变，不论输赢，起码曾经为之抗争过。
历史上没有哪一次的所谓正义的群体维权事件不会上升为流血和暴力，只能概括为四个字：乌合之众。
好喜欢！百老汇实力真牛
political trial的论点很有趣。扣一是去看了原本事件的页面，只能说电影完整还原了，并没有太大的发挥空间。
说实话，初看这部电影，并没有太多共鸣，因为不了解那段历史背景。对于真实历史事件改编的电影，最大的收获是其介绍了一段不为大多数人所熟知的历史，它会促使我们去探索历史的真相。在查阅了维基百科之后，了解到这个事件和1968年相当广泛的一系列民主活动有深刻的联系。
“全世界都在看”嬉皮的景观化连十个红色旅都救不回来，大家仍然是被看的，人质地活着，而且在此中感到振奋和自豪？作为美国左派，存在而无策略，终逃不出为国家家奴。美国滴个人主义者都不要的国家美国里左派为了好好做奴年年递交给法西斯奥斯卡奖的摇头丸电影只能自我感动和上当，一如人们总会被这样营养不良的烂货给蒙骗驯养着，搞搞这种最破烂的题材，听喘息。只是忘记，1886年干草市场暴乱才真正使芝加哥人民伟大，玩文化左派，尽数欺诈
艺术来源于生活，真实的生活真实的故事最为动人。
“我从未因为思想而受到政府审判” 高潮戏略有逊色，但依然令人热泪盈眶，如果你会因此泪目，那是因为内心深处对自由的渴望尚未泯灭。
最后，与其拿本片反思遥远美国的当下，不妨反思邻近香港的当下。
“Do you have contempt for your government?” - "It's nothing compared to the contempt my government has for me”
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